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Updated August 28, 2023

The "Flat Earth" Geocentric) model
VS
the "Global" (heliocentric) model:
Which is Truth or Which is Fiction?

IF YOU ARE A SKEPTIC OF THIS TOPIC, THEN BE WARNED... YOU WILL NEVER FIND TRUTH WITHOUT BEING STRONG ENOUGH TO SET YOUR PRIDE AND FEAR OF WHAT OTHERS THINK ASIDE, AND TO ACTUALLY DELVE INTO THE ISSUE WITH A ZEAL FOR TRUTH, AND UNDERSTANDING THAT TRUTH IS NEVER LAYING ON THE SURFACE, EASILY PICKED UP. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A REAL TRUTH SEEKER AND SOMEONE WHO BELIEVES THEY ALREADY "KNOW" THE TRUTH IS THE ONE WHO WILL ACTUALLY FIND TRUTH!

The world is awakening to a lot of truth these days. Lies told to us from infancy are being exposed almost daily. I should start on how I got into looking this far into the matrix...My journey into this so far, because it will help you to understand the possibilities of how we've been lied to all our lives on countless things. Keep in mind that facing the truth when you've believed a lie all your life can be upsetting and make you angry...

My path goes back to 911 and the obvious (now) impossible physics of three buildings "collapsing" (one, building 7 which was NOT hit by any plane) at free-fall speed into their own footprint.

Next, it was Oklahoma City bombing, which turned our to be our own government planting three bombs INSIDE the building, two of which did NOT go off as planned... they wanted everyone dead. (See bottom of 999-fraud page above for video proof of news reporting that day on this).

How about that the Federal Reserve is part of our government and is intended to help Americans.

Huge Lie. The IRS private wage tax (falsely called "income") fraud and the theft of trillions of our dollars?

Unless you've been in a coma the last 5 years, you KNOW how the criminal deep state government and players are being exposed, the Covid fraud, the Democrat and RINO treason and exposure... it ALL has led to simply not believing everything I've been told all my life, like we went to the moon (discussed below). We live in a matrix created to control us and we MUST red pill ourselves and get the truth about EVERYTHING or we remain sheeple!

Listen to what Carl Sagan said in his last interview about being skeptical about science and technology as it is presented to us... THIS is healthy in this day and age of liars...

Given that, logical questions and reasoning is the ONLY way to arrive at the truth. There are too many logical questions that science can't explain if it is equally applied to our whole universe) regarding a flat earth (FE).

Just ONE of these apparent lies could well be the almost "genetic" coding of a global, round, rotating earth allegedly based on "modern" science.

Why does the subject of a flat earth cause so much ridicule and angst in so many people? The answer is, none of us like the thought of being lied to and deceived all our lives, so we have to defend what we've embraced and even supported in countless ways. Belief does not change science fact and actual data. This small presentation will NOT answer all your obvious questions, but it WILL challenge you as it has me. You will be able to follow up on this on your own if you choose to expand this subject in search for the fullest truth.

Why do you believe the earth is a globe? Have you personally proven the earth is round and rotates at 1000 miles an hour at the equator? Have you personally proven that it revolves around the sun at app. 67,000 miles per hour? Have you personally proven the earth moves through the universe at 1.3 million miles an hour?

Why do you believe those things? Because we were ALL taught this from childhood and, of course, we could not actually prove it for ourselves, and accepted what we were told as being true... like Santa Clause and the tooth fairy, right?

Of course, this topic (both sides) is far bigger than a simple article or web page can explore, but here are some challenging questions for you to consider, and discover for yourself, regarding the possibility of a flat earth. Remember, lies are being exposed at an exponential rate these days, so should we simply plod on believing everything we've presumed to be factual without using today's technology and scientific facts to challenges these beliefs?

This is a brief introduction to the flat earth concept and the puzzling and never-discussed quandaries many have discovered. Consider these simple challenges to see whether you want to pursue this topic in your travels in search of truth. There are many questions to ask and this isn't the answer to all of them. It is simply raising questions which have not been adequately answered given science as we know it, and in this day and age of exposing liars and fraud in our societies, this is but one more topic to finally examine.

Remember... for millennia, mankind had no means to actually quantify the conventional wisdom of the day, but today, we have every scientific tool at our disposal to prove or disprove the alleged facts we've been taught all our lives. Lies cannot run from the light of truth. Prove all things. Hold fast to what is good!

Here are some intriguing questions that have been raised that need to be scientifically answered without lame excuses or unscientific solutions.

    Air Travel (calculations for all flights are based on a "flat, non-rotating earth," and you will see "why" below).

  • The earth is allegedly spinning at approximately 1030 miles an hour at the equator, (faster than the speed of sound, which is 761 MPH (mach 1) ... another science quandary and, by the way, what keeps the earth spinning at that rate of speed?) and somewhat less as you allegedly go north or south of this line on a globe model. This would mean that if you were to fly from New York City to Los Angeles, California, approximately 2791 miles, the earth with Los Angeles on it is "traveling" toward where NYC airspace is at approximately 750 miles per hour (Washington, DC earth speed - all times are estimates and not official speeds) once the jet takes off. (On the return trip, New York City is traveling AWAY from Los Angeles air space(*) at 750 miles per hour, discussed below). Shouldn't the travel time "TO" LA be fairly quick (approximately 2.2 hours to travel the 2791 miles at 1250 MPH (750 earth travel TOWARD the jet, plus 500 MPH jet travel speed toward LA)? NOTE: 500 miles per hour is a low estimate of actual jet speeds of approximately 550-650+ miles per hour, to make it simple. NOTE: The above does NOT take into consideration the trade winds which are yet ANOTHER speed factor for traveling East toward your destination. Trade winds allegedly are traveling 150-250 MPH FASTER than the spin of the globe Earth, which is traveling East as well...how can the atmosphere be traveling that much faster than the earth itself?

    *The term "air space" refers to where the city was under an imaginary stationary point above the city as the earth allegedly rotates for making the point about travel in either direction.

  • To expand on this... How can the west trip (NYC to LA) not take considerably shorter travel time than the return trip since the earth is moving LA "TOWARDS" NYC at 750 MPH while the jet is flying approximately 500 MPH on TOP of the 750 MPH earth speed? 1250 MPH combined speed of travel. Do the math. What removes the earth's rotation speed from the travel time? How can we ignore this spin speed if it is actually occurring?

  • Of course, the reverse is also true... Traveling from LA to NYC, The earth is moving NYC "AWAY" from LA air space at 750 MPH, while the jet is traveling at 500 MPH trying to catch up. How does the jet every catch up to NYC if it is traveling away at 750 miles per hour while the jet is only traveling at 500 MPH? How, then, is the travel times for both trips almost identical for both flights in our real world experience?

  • When jets, or ANY aircraft, fly from point A to point B, in ANY direction, why is earth's rotation NOT entered into flight calculations? Ask any pilot. Let's imagine a flight from Miami, Florida, to Chicago, Illinois. While you take off from Miami, Chicago is moving east approximately 400 miles during the actual flight time, so why set a direct flight toward Chicago 400 miles west of Miami (longitude line) only to realize Chicago is MOVING East to the right of a north traveling jet? Are flights calculated for THAT earth movement? Let's do one better... Let's go from Miami to Kansas City, KS. While you are leaving Miami, KC is traveling east at approximately 750 MPH, meaning, if the airlines wanted to save time and fuel, the plane would simply fly mostly NORTH to meet KC at the pre-planned point. Do you see the issue? Why chart a "direct flight" to another destination when the actual destination is moving away from you or toward you at varying angles? Imagine a military jet traveling north, trying to land on an aircraft carrier moving east with the earth at 750 Miles per hour...

  • When a pilot charts a course, they chart a straight line... point A to point B. The earth's alleged curve is approximately 8 inches per mile, squared - (8 inches drop the first mile, (1 X 1 X 8), 32 inches drop the second mile, (2 X 2 X 8), 72 inches drop the third mile, (3 X 3 X 8), etc.). This means that ALL destination points charted are well below the horizon. Has anyone ever heard about a pilot having to gradually nudge the nose of their aircraft DOWN to account for the curve of earth? Without that applied by the pilot, or built into the plane's "auto pilot," the aircraft would soon be climbing higher and higher, ignoring the 8 inches per mile drop, and theoretically end up in space. Ask any pilot if these calculations have ever been discussed or exist. They fly level at cruising altitude for, say, a thousand miles and there should be 124 miles lower level drop at 1000 miles and going 2000 miles, there is a 476 mile drop. Ask any pilot if they calculate for this in flying...

  • Imagine a helicopter trip. Let's say, from Chicago, Illinois to the Quad Cities, Illinois (QC) almost directly west across the state... 150+ miles. The earth is bringing the QC toward Chicago airspace at, let's say 650 miles per hour, just to adjust for being more north than DC. This means, the helicopter SHOULD be able to simply rise up and hover, and WAIT for the QC to arrive in about 15 minutes, and then drop down to land. Have you every heard of this occurring? Helicopter trips from the QC to Chicago take the same time either way. How can that be possible with a rotating earth? Why waste all that fuel moving the helicopter when the QC is being brought right to you due to this alleged rotation, for free? Some will say that the helicopter is already traveling as fast as the earth is rotating when it lifts off earth, but what KEEPS it traveling at that speed once it separates from earth? What force keeps it propelled at the same speed as the earth? The same could be said for a hot air balloons... it is nonsense magical physics.

    • NOTE: There is a running argument against the above discussion which uses the term "conservation of momentum" to try to explain how a plane or helicopter aren't affected by the earth's motion and retain their earth speed when they lift from the rotating planet. Of course, this defies all rational science and physics, and even suggests "perpetual motion" that somehow magically appears when the plane or helicopter leaves the earth. Explain THAT one...

  • Lastly on this topic, try chartering a direct flight from Melbourne, Australia to Buenos Aires, Argentina. In fact, try booking ANY direct flight in the "southern hemisphere" for that matter. I tried to schedule the above trip, and I could, but, the trip was completely out of line with Buenos Aires on a globe model. A direct flight from Melbourne, Australia, OR even Auckland, NZ was impossible. The distance from either is approximately 7236 miles and 6395 miles respectively, however, the flight went from, let's start with Auckland, to San Francisco (North) 6499 miles, then from SF to Houston at 1642 miles, then from Houston to Buenos Aires, Argentina at 5025 miles. So, we have a direct flight of 6395 miles from Auckland, but have to travel 13,166 miles to make that trip, with the huge out-of-the-way trip to the Northern Hemisphere and America. This makes zero sense on a global model but the ONLY real route on a flat earth model. Do your own trip planning for similar trips and track the path. How does any of that make sense?

  • Here are "scientific" alleged rotation stats you can use to decide whether their "science" can explain the challenges in this document... (trust the science...) or more deception. At the North Pole (90 degrees north) and South Pole (90 degrees south), the speed is effectively zero because that spot rotates once in 24 hours, at a very, very slow speed.

      To determine the speed at any other latitude, simply multiply the cosine of the degree latitude times the speed of 1,037.5646.

      Thus, at 45 degrees north, the cosine is .7071068, so multiply .7071068 times 1,037.5464, and the speed of the rotation is 733.65611 miles per hour (1,180.7 km/h).

      For other latitudes, the earth's speed is:

      • 10 degrees: 1,021.7837 mph (1,644.4 km/h)
      • 20 degrees: 974.9747 mph (1,569.1 km/h)
      • 30 degrees: 898.54154 mph (1,446.1 km/h)
      • 40 degrees: 794.80665 mph (1,279.1 km/h)
      • 50 degrees: 666.92197 mph (1,073.3 km/h)
      • 60 degrees: 518.7732 mph (834.9 km/h)
      • 70 degrees: 354.86177 mph (571.1 km/h)
      • 80 degrees: 180.16804 mph (289.95 km/h)

        • Examples:
        • At latitude 30 degrees N or S: cos(30) * 1670 km/hr = .866 * 1670 km/hr = 1446 km/hr
        • At latitude 45 degrees N or S: cos(45) * 1037 mi/hr = .707 * 1037 mi/hr = 733 mi/hr
        • At latitude 90 degrees N or S: cos(90) * 1037 mi/hr = 0 * 1037 mi/hr = 0 (you spin)

          • Sample Table of Orbital Velocities

          City Latitude MPH KPH
          Longyearbyen, Norway 78.1 degrees N 214 344
          Moscow, Russia 55.8 degrees N 583 939
          London, UK 51.5 degrees N 646 1040
          New York, USA 41.9 degrees N 772 1243
          Los Angeles, USA 34.1 degrees N 859 1383
          Quito, Ecuador 0.2 degrees S 1037 1670
          Rio de Janeiro, Brazil 22.9 degrees 955 1538
          Cape Town, South Africa 33.9 degrees S 861 1386
          Ushuaia, Argentina 54.5 degrees S 602 970

          Do you feel like you are moving, even a little, standing where you are on earth? Explain the science that answers the questions herein.

    Other conundrums:

    • The earth has an atmosphere which allegedly borders the vacuum of space. The elephant in the room is this... what keeps the atmosphere from rushing toward that vacuum? In any grade school science experiment with pressure and vacuum, it is well established that pressure moves TOWARD a vacuum. Two pressure differences cannot exist side by side without a barrier. Law of thermodynamics. Take a container with a divider in it. One side you fill with air, the other you remove all air, leaving a vacuum. What happens when you remove the divider between the air and vacuum or open a valve between the two? Any child knows the air will fill the vacuum, and equalize the container. So, how can the atmosphere of earth be contained with no divider between the alleged vacuum of space and the atmosphere itself? What "physics" are so different up there that the atmosphere simply stays in place, countering the 2nd law of thermodynamics? Continuing, this would call into question ALL the planets in our "solar system" with their atmospheres, clouds, the "gas giants, etc. Are they really as described? What of all the alleged images of these bodies with intact atmospheres? How much of what we've been fed for all our lives is actually real and NOT computer generated?

    • Many will say "gravity" is what maintains the atmosphere from being sucked into the vacuum. Does this negate the pressure laws we just discussed? How can "gravity" (something they STILL cannot explain scientifically with any credibility) hold air away from such a huge vacuum of space? Space vacuum is tremendously powerful, as NASA and others portray...(less than 1 millionth tore). If this is the explanation, why doesn't the moon's "gravity" (or sun...) pull at the atmosphere? The moon is alleged to be the "pull" which causes the ocean's tides, and the sun is allegedly the pull maintaining earth in an orbit, so it certainly should be tugging at the atmosphere at the same time, especially without any barrier to stop the tug forces, right? And, while we're on the topic of tides, why do the oceans ONLY have tides when the largest bodies of water second to oceans, lakes... have ZERO tidal evidence? Why doesn't lake Superior or Michigan have similar tidal evidence? NONE!

    • And another gravity issue: The earth's speed at the equator is approximately 1030 miles an hour... see photo above. As you go north or south below this line on a global model, the speed decreases. "Gravity" is allegedly what holds us to the earth and prevents us from flying off of the globe at hundreds of miles per hour, whether a marble or a jumbo jet. "Gravity" is what allegedly gives us "weight" and which counters the earth's rotating physics to throw everything off the planet. So, given those accepted "scientific" facts, we have to ask a question: Given the chart above, as you go north or south, the earth's speed decreases, which, from a physics point of view, "should" mean that the force trying to throw you off the planet lessens, and "gravity" should be pulling you down harder, making you "weigh" more as the speed lessens. What do we see in real world physics? You can go to the equator, and to Alaska, weigh yourself, and you will see that you weigh exactly the same. This means that, on the globe model earth, as you go north or south, you should weigh more, and hence, you would need much bigger muscles and strength to even walk, let alone do anything else that takes effort. See the problem?

    • Continuing... if the moon's gravity is what pulls the tides, why aren't there equal or even greater solar tides as well. The sun, it is claimed, is what maintains the revolutions of the planets around itself, by gravitational pull, so there must be at least an equal force that would do the same as the moon and lunar tides on earth, but we do not see this.

    • The 8 inch per mile squared curvature of the earth was discussed a bit above, but let's delve into this a bit more. For every mile of earth, the curve allegedly drops almost 8 inches... squared, from end to end. If you have an expanse of water that crosses dozens or even a 100 or more miles, the drop should be easily measured. (Earth Curve Calculator). Take a laser, and place a receiver at the other side of a 100 mile body of water. The actual drop from one end to the other should measure 6100 feet... over a mile. This means that at the other end of this measurement, 6100 feet of the earth should be missing below the curve, except this doesn't happen. (See video with actual camera viewing of this below). Not even an inch disappears below the horizon and all features which should be out of view are clearly seen using a good telescope or newer cameras like the Nikon COOLPIX P1000, which has been used to prove these facts in recent times. You can try this experiment yourself if you find this hard to believe. Many dozens of scientific experiments have been conducted across great expanses of "flat" ground or bodies of water. Using modern day optics and magnification, it has been conclusively proven that the alleged 8 inch curvature simply isn't there across many miles of territory. Objects which should be many feet below the earths curve can be readily seen by good quality cameras or telescopes. This should be impossible if the earth curves downward and out of view.

    • Similar experiments can be performed using laser measurements on buildings. As any building is further and further away, being built on a "curved" earth, the buildings should exhibit a leaning away effect from the origin of measurement.... \ /... as you measure further away buildings. However, when this is performed, the laser measures the same distance at the top of the building as at the bottom. This should not be possible unless the building is on flat ground, despite its distance.

    • The issue of water levels, (sea "level") the issue of water "bending" around a curved globe needs to be looked at as well. Water ALWAYS seeks it's own level. Simple experiments prove this every day, and this fact is actually used in landscaping and level measurements. So, the obvious question is, what maintains the "level" of water on a curved ball? Again, many call on "gravity" to come to the rescue. Does this make sense though? Water needs a container to maintain its level. Thinking scientifically and using simple physics, it is illogical to presume that water is held against the earth, "level," but then bends, but stays in level place as it bends. Again, using good equipment on the ocean front, this can be proven that the water does NOT bend along with the earth.

      • For example, ships and such that seem to sail "out of view" because of going over the "curve" at the horizon, are NOT disappearing out of physical view. They appear to do this (perspective) using the naked eye, but the telescope or camera can soon bring these "disappeared" ships quickly back into clear and FULL view without any amount of them missing despite being dozens or even a hundred miles away. Do the experiment yourself.

    • If the earth is rotating at approximately 1000 miles per hour at the equator, how can the atmosphere be so "still" and actually move faster than the earth to the east in general trade wind weather? Does it FEEL like we are traveling app. 650-750 MPH in America. Why aren't there massive wind storms?

    • Given that the earth's alleged curve is 8 inches per mile squared, let's presume that you are standing on the sea shore, and the mountains are 100 miles away from you, toward... any direction, it doesn't matter. ANY direction from you is DOWN on a curved ball earth. At the end of the first mile, it is 8 inches lower than you, in ANY direction. Next mile is 32 inches lower than you, third mile is 72 inches lower than you, etc. At 100 miles, you can see that the ground has dropped away from you, yet, YOU are at "sea level," so how can the water be flowing TOWARD you, uphill, to the sea where you are standing? Does that sound right and normal to you? Explain that with science.

    • Another example: The Suez canal (That name is "Zeus" spelled backwards...) is 121 miles long, end to end. On a curved earth, that would be a drop of 9,704.5 feet from one end to the other end. So, why doesn't the water flow... either direction? Remember, at any point along that 121 miles, it is ALL down hill if there is a curve. Say you are at the middle of the Suez canal. At this point, the water has two basic downhill directions: forward or backward, (not to mention every OTHER direction) because water seeks its own level, as it ALWAYS does. So, why isn't there a flow of water through that canal, emptying it in minutes? What keeps that water in a "level" canal "level" for 121 miles despite the 9,704.5 feet of drop, ESPECIALLY on a truly flat surface that water represents? (The Panama canal, at 51 miles long is similar in physics as well). Do you own calculations:.

    • Have you ever seen this?

    If the sun is 91 million miles away in winter (North America) and 94 million miles away in summer, (how do they know this?), how can a sunset reveal diverging light rays? Light travels in a "straight" line as science teaches, unless refracted by something, so how can this divergence be a regular occurrence on earth? Doesn't it appear that the sun is far closer to earth than they make it out to be? Would "refraction" be the answer to every unparallel sunset light rays shining through the clouds in exactly the same way?

    How about the topic of comets... Even IF we could agree that they are out in deep space... how can it be possible for them to make "regular" returns to earth, to be seen and analyzed, if EVERYTHING is moving at various speeds THROUGH the universe? Are we to presume that Halley's comet is so precisely in right synchronous orbit through deep space to be able to arrive perfectly in time, (not to mention all the lunar and solar "eclipses") so that it can actually be predicted? How come "gravity" that every body in space exerts doesn't alter the course of these timed arrivals?

    A couple last topics...

    The heliocentric model of the earth revolving around the sun while traveling at great speeds through the universe can be easily disproven, and has been. Polaris... what we all know as the north star, has been photographed countless times in time lapse photography. These photos clearly show that all the stars are traveling around this star in perfect concentric circles. This has been true for as long as photography has been around, and the corresponding constellations have been recognizable for millennia. If the earth and all celestial bodies were traveling through space as is alleged, these constellations and stars would be changing and NOT staying exactly the same century after century. How can these lights travel in a perfect circle around Polaris if the earth is traveling around the sun, and the sun is traveling at 448,000 miles per hour through the universe?

    Side note: Could Polaris, the North Star, be where God's throne is? Everything revolves around that star, and the earth is set at the other end of this rotation system. (Isaiah 14:13).

    The ONLY way Polaris could have all the stars traveling in a concentric circle around it is for them to be moving, and not the earth rotating. Earth rotation could NOT allow such a time lapse picture to occur.

    Under the geocentric flat earth model, the Antarctic is a ring of ice wall 360 degrees around the outer perimeter of the earth which holds the oceans in place...

    The atmosphere is held above earth by a "firmament"(*) as described in the bible in Genesis. (Gen. 1:6)

    (*) Firmament, in Hebrew, comes from Strong's # 7549, raw-kee'-ah, From H7554; "properly an expanse, that is, the firmament or (apparently) visible arch of the sky: - firmament."

    What would the flat earth, if fully proven as scientific fact, mean for humanity?

    What other myths might crumble along with the enslavement and limitation of humanity under scientific voodoo?

    • It would mean we never went to the moon in the 60's.

    • No mars landing, space probes, etc., would be possible if there is a dome above us containing our atmosphere.

    • What of Antarctic? Why did approximately at least 54 nations sign treaties declaring the Antarctic off limits? No one can go beyond the 60th parallel to explore this continent. No fly-overs are allowed. Why, if this is the shortest route for many flights? What is on other side of the Antarctic ice wall that is claimed exists? More land? Why did Admiral Byrd speak about abundance beyond the ice wall on this continent in his explorations?

    • The biggest elephant in the room would be, "who built the wall, and why?" It would soon be evident to all humanity that this dome and ice wall were deliberate creations and did not "evolve" over millions of years, destroying the false religion of evolution. The whole concept of God's existence would be inevitable, and THAT is a big reason this is being hidden and obfuscated. Evidence of design, intelligence and intention. We need to seek that truth out as much as we can.

    • I still have many questions(**) I'm searching out that address all the brainwashing I received in schools in science, but the above are serious challenges that no one has been able to answer with any credibility and proof. Such a scientific fact being suppressed by the elite have a single purpose in keeping this hidden...

    • ... that of hiding the fact of there being a creator God who established this "container" specifically for humanity. A firmament above a flat plane earth precludes "evolution" of the universe, the "big bang" fraud, and proves we are at the very center of the known universe, and are part of the most incredible creative process possible... that of being created in the very image and likeness of our creator. No one is leaving this planet without God and without being changed by His power and force to be able to survive outside this envelope. Humanity is being separated from God by the scientific misdirection and fraud being implemented on all humanity. The enemy, Satan, and his fallen angels, all want mankind to fail in this process, and thus, so many are being deceived and cast into a limitless universe, on an insignificant ball in the middle of the vastness of "space" and made to feel like accidents of evolution and no more important than some endangered species, or even a worm.

    • This would mean earth is the center of creation and God's plan, not some remote speck in an endless sea of specks, making humanity appear to be meaningless and of no consequence instead of realizing that humanity is destined to be God's very offspring. Evil does not want that realization to enter the human mind. This fact demands humanity to look inward and then realize that it is only looking outward, toward our creator that we will ever be able to reach that level of existence where our creator lives, and realize our destiny... that of being born into the God Family!

    • ** An example of things that are a challenge to the FE concept is the Shuttle Tether Incident that allegedly takes place in space and shows many UFOs around it as it is drifting away and being engulfed by lights. Of course, this could also be faked, to enhance the "space" idea and to muddy the waters with "UFO" and other planets and civilizations to keep everyone on track with their fraud.

    Miscellaneous points to consider:

    • Have you ever seen the moon actually approaching the sun during an eclipse, and gradually covering it? See video below on this topic.

    • The global flood of Genesis is even more plausible given a flat plane that could be flooded.

    • Consider this: Satellites are allegedly all over space above a rotating earth. Many are allegedly in "geosynchronous orbit." This means that, in order for the satellites to maintain that same position over one spot on earth, those satellites would have to be moving far faster than the earth rotates at any given position, AND, each satellite would have to be placed at that speed individually depending on where it is over a rotating globe.

    • Given the evidence herein thus far, the entire moon landing scenario seem impossible, (dome and sealed system?).

    The evidence of the staged landing-1 and evidence of the staged landing-2

    Scott Henderson: Apollo Hoax, California Dreaming [Mirror]

    Apollo Moon Hoax Evidence

    Scott Henderson - more photo evidence of moon landing hoax

    The moon landing pictures and evidence has been evaluated by many professionals, and found to be laughable and provably faked. There are dozens of videos on this evidence proving we never went to the moon, but they are a challenge to locate (they aren't on the first few pages of any search...) as they are being suppressed and manipulated like so many topics being suppressed by fake news and government criminals these days.

Video Evidence: (Keep this in mind in investigating this topic... don't shoot the messenger. Many people are trying in their own way to expose this and many related topics, and don't always do it in a professional or even desirable way, especially in videos. The message is what is important, so take what you can make sense of and use it).